{"id":19827,"date":"2020-01-25T12:19:48","date_gmt":"2020-01-25T12:19:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/conectas.org\/?post_type=noticia&#038;p=19827"},"modified":"2021-04-05T12:24:26","modified_gmt":"2021-04-05T12:24:26","slug":"helena-taliberti-and-marcela-rodrigues-the-pain-of-loss-and-the-struggle-for-justice","status":"publish","type":"noticia","link":"https:\/\/conectas.org\/en\/noticias\/helena-taliberti-and-marcela-rodrigues-the-pain-of-loss-and-the-struggle-for-justice\/","title":"Helena Taliberti and Marcela Rodrigues: the pain of loss and the struggle for justice","content":"<div class=\"tts_content_wrapper_1\" ><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One year after the social and environmental tragedy in Brumadinho, many families need to cope with the pain of loss while also continuing their struggle for justice.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-19772 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/conectas.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Helan-Tiberti-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"851\" height=\"567\" srcset=\"https:\/\/conectas.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Helan-Tiberti-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/conectas.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Helan-Tiberti-768x513.jpg 768w, https:\/\/conectas.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Helan-Tiberti-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/conectas.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Helan-Tiberti-1151x768.jpg 1151w, https:\/\/conectas.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Helan-Tiberti.jpg 1326w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 851px) 100vw, 851px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><b>Helena Taliberti, aged 72, economist and director of the Camila and Luiz Taliberti Institute<\/b><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I was in S\u00e3o Paulo. It was a public holiday, the anniversary of the city. I was strolling along Avenida Paulista when I heard about the tragedy through a notification on my mobile phone from one of those news sites. At the time, I didn\u2019t give it much thought. I knew my children were in Brumadinho, but we never think, right\u2026 We started getting worried later, when they didn\u2019t reply to our messages.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Then we received the information that we had to go to Belo Horizonte to register them as missing. So we went there to do this registration. After two days without news, we went to Brumadinho. There was no news of them there. Not of my daughter, nor my son, nor my daughter-in-law, nor their father, nor their father\u2019s wife.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There was a place for the families to assemble. It was one of Vale\u2019s facilities and other institutions were there too, like the Civil Defense. There they released, from time to time, a list of the people who had been found and those who were still missing.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I had to do the registration 7 times before their names were included on Vale\u2019s list of missing people. It was a very painful process. They didn\u2019t give us any information.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[click on the paragraph below and listen to the audio]<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Look, my life is over, right\u2026 How is it that a mother can lose her two children and her daughter-in-law pregnant with her first grandchild? We were thrilled about that, the news of the baby. Camila was at an excellent stage in her life professionally and she was in love\u2026 Luiz was in love too, and was doing very well at his job in Australia; he had just been made director at the office where he worked; he had received an award for the second consecutive year; his work had been rewarded. And Fernanda was doing very well, she was really happy with her pregnancy\u2026 we were too\u2026 what can I say? everything was beautiful, you know, beautiful\u2026 and suddenly it all ended\u2026 There\u2019s nothing left. There\u2019s nothing left.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[click on the paragraph below and listen to the audio]<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s difficult to process, difficult to accept&#8230; You just can\u2019t bear it. I still keep expecting them to walk in through the front door.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(\u2026)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">They never came to us for anything because we\u2019re not from the community, they weren\u2019t Vale employees, they weren\u2019t contractors and they didn\u2019t live in the region.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(\u2026)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We created the Camila and Luiz Taliberti Institute based on my children\u2019s ideals and values. Camila was greatly concerned with social issues and the empowerment of vulnerable groups, especially women. Luiz had an enormous concern for the environment and for quality of life, and so we are following these interests.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(\u2026)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This cannot be forgotten, we need to talk about Minas outside Minas. In Minas, people already know, everyone knows what happened and how things are unfolding, but outside here nobody knows. It has already been forgotten. It\u2019s important for us to speak out and not let anyone interfere because it can\u2019t have been in vain, we need to find a solution so this sector can stop operating in a predatory way like it does now.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-19771 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/conectas.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/atingidas_MinasGerais_LondonMiningNetwork_2019-1-833x540-300x194.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"829\" height=\"537\" srcset=\"https:\/\/conectas.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/atingidas_MinasGerais_LondonMiningNetwork_2019-1-833x540-300x194.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/conectas.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/atingidas_MinasGerais_LondonMiningNetwork_2019-1-833x540-768x498.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/conectas.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/atingidas_MinasGerais_LondonMiningNetwork_2019-1-833x540.jpeg 833w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 829px) 100vw, 829px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><b>Marcela Rodrigues, aged 26, social coordinator of the Archdiocese of Belo Horizonte who works with affected communities in Brumadinho. She is a student of pedagogy and a local tourism entrepreneur.<\/b><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I had a hostel in the town, but now it\u2019s closed. On that day, the day of the tragedy, I\u2019d gone on a trip with a family from S\u00e3o Paulo. At about 1 pm, I was on my way back from a restaurant when we saw a flow of people coming down to the reception. There, we received a statement that the dam had burst and they were evacuating everyone because they didn\u2019t know what conditions the town would be in.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(\u2026)<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nobody knew the scale of the incident, the impact that it would really have. As a security measure, the Civil Defense asked all businesses to close.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(\u2026)<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The mud didn\u2019t reach the central part of the town, where my business was located.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(\u2026)<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I lost my father. He worked at Vale for 17 years, he was 49 years old and worked as an electrical inspector. After that, I broke down emotionally and psychologically, as did most people in the town.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I closed my business. People stopped coming to visit Brumadinho. Tourism here has suffered a lot as a result of the dam collapse, people are afraid of the conditions in the town today, of the contamination.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It broke my family apart, everyone is leaving, nobody wants to relive this pain every day. I still live in the town, I work with the affected communities because I want this number of 272 people to become a landmark, to be a watershed, for there to be a change in this predatory mining system.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(\u2026)<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">After the dam burst, people started to frequent a place here called the \u2018Knowledge Space\u2019, which is one of Vale\u2019s educational projects with sports and educational activities for children. The space had service facilities of the Civil Defense, Vale, the Public Prosecutor\u2019s Office, but nobody knew how to teach anything. The company itself that day didn\u2019t know how to provide news about what had really happened.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We registered people as missing countless times and often the day afterwards, their names still would not appear on the list. We had to go back, we had to go from place to place looking for information.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(\u2026)<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Vale offered us lawyers and psychologists. But at the time we didn\u2019t feel confident talking to them, mainly because they defended the criminal position of the company, and what we wanted was a personal service.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(\u2026)<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[click on the paragraph below and listen to the audio]<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Many farmers lost their land and even though they have received reparations, the money isn\u2019t enough to give them back their livelihood. It takes time to prepare farmland, to get it ready for planting and make a living off it\u2026 The disaster put a end to an economic way of life for them. In addition to the mental shock that people are suffering today\u2026 there is contamination. The cancer rate has increased, the suicide rate has increased, people are showing up with skin diseases\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(\u2026)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[click on the paragraph below and listen to the audio]<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Not only were we, as women, already suffering this stigmatization, this mining company <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">machismo<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> that \u201cimplanted\u201d the idea that men work and women stay at home to take care of the children, but I have also noticed that there are now a number of women who are doing very badly because they lost the bedrocks of their homes, they lost the people who sustained them\u2026 Unfortunately, most of us believe in this system, that we belong in the home, that we are the women of the home\u2026 but I have worked with community leaders and I see the empowerment of women on the front line, in the resolution of conflicts. And so, in this sense, they now have more of a voice.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"tts__custom-position_bottom_fixed\" ><\/div>","excerpt":"<p>First-hand accounts with audio excerpts from two women who do not want to let their stories be erased<\/p>\n","author":2,"featured_media":19796,"parent":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0},"categories":[7],"tags":[8310,8348,12605,8309,8333],"tema":[12279],"class_list":["post-19827","noticia","type-noticia","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","tag-justice4brumadinho","tag-accounts","tag-brumadinho-en","tag-tragedy","tag-victims","tema-socioenvironmental-rights"],"acf":{"author":false,"subtitle-pt":"First-hand accounts with audio excerpts from two women who do not want to let their stories be 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